The server is not down.
The new version of Lackey is official. You need to download it to play.
Download the new Lackey from the downloads page.
http://lackeyccg.com/downloads.html
UPDATING:
Method A: Unzip the lackey folder (if it didn't automatically get unzipped). Put your old plugins folder into the new lackey folder. All your plugins and saved decks should be restored.
Method B: If your previous version of LackeyCCG.exe was more recent than the 10-14-09 build from last year, all you need to do to update is take the new .exe from the newly downloaded lackey and put it in your old lackey folder, replacing your old lackeyccg.exe. If your previous version of lackey was the 10-14-09 build, you will need the whole folder from the new download and you should use method A.
You WILL need to set your name and perhaps some other preferences like skins or table images. You do NOT need to download all your plugins again or recreate your decks, as noted above.
You do not need to connect to the server by IP as some testers did before. "Refresh Server List from Tracker" works.
FYI, the Lackey program updater is not currently working. The lackey plugin updater does, but not that standalone exe that updates the LackeyCCG.exe itself. Also, the mac updater is not yet working. You need to manually update at the moment as described above.
I'm not sure it matters, but I'm using the default value of 25711 for the server's port. I don't think anyone besides me (the server host) needs to know that though. Also, if you want to host without using the proxy server, which is a good idea, you will need to free both the TCP and UDP ports, which by default is 25710. Unlike the server port the server host uses, as a player you will definitely want to free your game port if you are behind a firewall/router that prevents you from hosting normal games otherwise.
More about it soon....
EDIT:
I am aware there are still networking bugs. No need to tell me about them any more until I post the new version.
EDIT: I fixed the bug that wouldn't allow a deck with multiple superzones to load. I fixed a crash caused by browsing directories. And some other stuff.
I get this. I didn't have any problem when I was testing previously. Sorry!
(http://www.werepenguin.com/small/lackeyservererror.png)
Same problem with connecting here.
I'm looking into this.
I was able to replicate this DC bug and I'm hot on the trail fixing it.
Sadly this is all too common with software. We'll likely see more problems spring up as more people start using the new version. No amount of testing by a limited number of people can uncover all the problems. We'll just have to tough it out. On the up side however once these issues are nailed down Lackey should be better than ever.
Quote from: Alastair on November 19, 2010, 12:53:53 AM
Sadly this is all too common with software. We'll likely see more problems spring up as more people start using the new version. No amount of testing by a limited number of people can uncover all the problems. We'll just have to tough it out. On the up side however once these issues are nailed down Lackey should be better than ever.
I'm switching to a different philosophy now. I care more about the long term than the short term. I will be fixing all the bugs I can as fast as I can with this new version so people can play, but in order to find these bugs and properly test them I need people on the server. When I had both the old server and the new server up, people just stayed on the old server and I wasn't able to test stress well with the new version which is the one I care about. Yesterday, it was difficult for some people to play because of the bugs, but I think the new version (from 11-19-10) fixes that.
It looks as though people aren't checking the website to see what's going on, but are just assuming that the server is down for the same reasons it sometimes goes down for a little while. I think it would be a good idea to put it back up but block game creation and include a message that the new version is up and where people can find it.
The new version won't open for me. The warning says the application configuration is incorrect.
What specific files do you need to replace in order to launch the program with the new build? It will get pretty old having to move your plugin folder around all the time, as mine is huge and doesn't transfer that easily.
It seems people are still experiencing disconnects.
Are any mac users experiencing disconnects?
No
If I remember right, the old version of Lackey would automatically turn the picture of a card that has a jpg in landscape orientation so that it would be in your hand the way you would normally hold it, but you could turn the card 90 degrees and the picture would turn with it.
But now I noticed that it will stretch the card vertically and shrink it horizontally to make it fit when the card is in portrait orientation. I have attached a picture. In the picture the right most card appears un-stretched after turning, but the two next to it have been contorted to fit.
Its not a big deal since these cards are supposed to be played in landscape position anyway, but some other game may have a problem with it.
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Like we were talkin about last night i got the message: You MIGHT be disconnected from the server now. Ask in chat if you are. so I asked in chat if i was and after about 30 seconds it came up so i was just experiancing a bit of lag.
I just posted a new version that I think will fix the disconnects.
Quote from: mathman1550 on November 19, 2010, 06:19:39 PM
If I remember right, the old version of Lackey would automatically turn the picture of a card that has a jpg in landscape orientation so that it would be in your hand the way you would normally hold it, but you could turn the card 90 degrees and the picture would turn with it.
But now I noticed that it will stretch the card vertically and shrink it horizontally to make it fit when the card is in portrait orientation. I have attached a picture. In the picture the right most card appears un-stretched after turning, but the two next to it have been contorted to fit.
Its not a big deal since these cards are supposed to be played in landscape position anyway, but some other game may have a problem with it.
I'll fix that.
Still networking bugs in the new version. I'm working on them.
Quick suggestion: on the "you may have been disconnected" debug message, can you include a timestamp?
Quote from: Picks-at-Flies on November 20, 2010, 02:43:01 AM
Quick suggestion: on the "you may have been disconnected" debug message, can you include a timestamp?
Mouse over the log and hold the alt (or option) key. That toggles timestamps visibility.
EDIT: In the next lackey posted, this works differently. Instead, simply left click the log to toggle showing and hiding time stamps.
Cunning!
I can't join a game without the connection being severed after a few seconds rendering me unable to play, and sometimes it tells me i'm already connected when i just turned on lackey.
When opening a deck file, the preview does not work if the deck is stored in text format.
I have been unable to connect since yesterday, when I connected for about 15 minutes. Since then I have tried many times, but I get the "you MIGHT have been disconnected..." message.
I understand that someone has to test the problems and I'm very willing to do it, but could we get the old server up while we wait for the new one to be fixed? I haven't been able to play a single game with my friends.
I just posted a new version that I hope fixes the networking woes.
Now I can not even log on and the build says 11-21-10
Error msg reads THERE WAS AN ERROR CONNECTING TO THE SERVER. SHUCKS
Seems to work for me.
Well not for me and I just checked again since there's a thread saying the server is now online. I was hoping that was my issue but it wasn't.
The first thing I notice in the new lackey is the lack of the Black text option!
What's with that? You even have Blue and Indigo, which as far as I can tell are the same color.
Also, is the option to host your own server gone for good?
My friends and I often play over lan and without this option, is there another way to host your own server?
[EDIT]
Sometimes when I click the "Reveal to owner" button in the side bar, it reveals/conceals both hand and library at the same time.
Also, is there an option to show the cards in the side bar as a stack like in the old versions instead of one after the other?
Quote from: Deathjoey on November 20, 2010, 08:13:48 PM
The first thing I notice in the new lackey is the lack of the Black text option!
What's with that? You even have Blue and Indigo, which as far as I can tell are the same color.
Also, is the option to host your own server gone for good?
My friends and I often play over lan and without this option, is there another way to host your own server?
[EDIT]
Sometimes when I click the "Reveal to owner" button in the side bar, it reveals/conceals both hand and library at the same time.
Also, is there an option to show the cards in the side bar as a stack like in the old versions instead of one after the other?
Oh, I missed black. Oops. Fixing that.
At the moment, while it is possible for others to launch their own servers, I don't want to splinter player groups.
If you are on a lan, just connect directly. Or you can still use the lackey server.
I'll look at the reveal to owner functionality. Does this happen all the time in a repeatable way for you? There are like 10 different ways to that. Exactly what things are you clicking and where?
Fan the cards out to your liking. There are many ways to do this. I prefer scroll wheel click + drag.
I still can't get LackeyCCG to start because the application configuration is incorrect. I'm using Windows XP with Service Pack 3
Quote from: ghostdragon on November 21, 2010, 05:33:18 AM
I still can't get LackeyCCG to start because the application configuration is incorrect. I'm using Windows XP with Service Pack 3
I also have Windows XP SP3 and it opens fine for me. Are you unzipping it all together correctly? are you changing any of the file structure? Are all your drivers updated?
Quote from: ghostdragon on November 21, 2010, 05:33:18 AM
I still can't get LackeyCCG to start because the application configuration is incorrect. I'm using Windows XP with Service Pack 3
Try downloaded it directly from the downloads page, unzipping it, and run it freshly from the folder.
I've done as you suggested and it's still coming up that the application configuration is incorrect. I also checked and I'm definitely using SP3 but it didn't work on SP2 (I installed the upgrade in the hope the program would work then).
Has anyone run into the problem using cthulhu_lcg or any other plugin wherein playing solitaire the story cards don't load with your deck?
I'm runnin' a Mac btw. Thanks in advance.
Hi Trevor. I am running Lucid Linux with recent Wine and it seems I have erred in downloading the new version as per your instructions and accidentally downloaded the whole new version as far as I know rather than just the exe. file. When I connect I am informed that I have an old version (19) and I am soon disconnected when attempting to play a game.
Is there a way I can get the original download and exact instructions as to how to transfer the .exe file only or another fix if you please?
Great job bringing LackeyCCG to us by the way, especially us Mac and Linux users.
Quote from: Remag on November 22, 2010, 05:01:22 PM
Hi Trevor. I am running Lucid Linux with recent Wine and it seems I have erred in downloading the new version as per your instructions and accidentally downloaded the whole new version as far as I know rather than just the exe. file. When I connect I am informed that I have an old version (19) and I am soon disconnected when attempting to play a game.
Is there a way I can get the original download and exact instructions as to how to transfer the .exe file only or another fix if you please?
Great job bringing LackeyCCG to us by the way, especially us Mac and Linux users.
Just take the fresh download from the downloads section, which is the 11-21-10 version at the moment. Then put your old lackey's plugins folder inside it. That should work. If for some reason you don't see the 11-21-10 version, clear your internet cache and try again.
Updating to build 11-23-10 worked from a strictly practical perspective, but once all files have been replaced and you hit the executable the version inside the app is still 11-21-10 and you're unable to host new games because of it.
Quote from: Alash on November 23, 2010, 07:52:29 AM
Updating to build 11-23-10 worked from a strictly practical perspective, but once all files have been replaced and you hit the executable the version inside the app is still 11-21-10 and you're unable to host new games because of it.
Clear your internet cache and try again. Everyone else is able to download it, so I know I posted the right version.
I cant select add a pack without the application crashing (build 11-23-10)
having the same problem with the add a pack feature (windows 11/23 build)
The add pack crash is a known bug. Fix for it should be fairly soon. Next release or two (I'm not certain if Trevor has fixed it by the release for later today).
Quote from: Alastair on November 24, 2010, 04:12:58 AM
The add pack crash is a known bug. Fix for it should be fairly soon. Next release or two (I'm not certain if Trevor has fixed it by the release for later today).
Fixed, as well as some other things. I'm working on that DC issue now.
I'm still getting the same message, I have absolutely no idea what to do now.
Quote from: ghostdragon on November 25, 2010, 12:28:25 PM
I'm still getting the same message, I have absolutely no idea what to do now.
Try this?
http://www.lackeyccg.com/forum/index.php?topic=722.0
I don't know which of these you're aware of, so I'll just list all bugs I've encountered in build 11-24:
1) Card images mixed up. A Chromatic Star on my opponent's screen is a Lucent Liminid on mine. It's unknown whether this is a one-time exception or a general bug.
2) Inability to sort cards freely in the Hand tab. No matter how you drag them they will always end up on the leftmost spot.
3) Timeout from the server after a relatively short period of time - sometimes manifested by not being able to load decks when joining games and an account name renamed to "Unknown", sometimes not at all.
I think that's it for now. Keep up the good work :)
I just posted a new Lackey that I think fixes the networking bugs people reported. I think it also fixes the bug where you wouldn't be set to the game tab automatically when you joined a game.
Let me know if anyone experiences any more disconnect bugs, or bugs where one player can speak but the other players don't see it. Or anything else.
See attachment.
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Quote from: Alash on November 28, 2010, 07:50:51 AM
See attachment.
What happened? Were you actually disconnected from the server or was that just an incorrect warning? Did that happen more than once? What preceded it? Were you in a game? Is it reproducible? Screenshots are helpful, but I need to know the context.
I still can not connect. I was able to connect just fine to the test server.
Error msg reads THERE WAS AN ERROR CONNECTING TO THE SERVER. SHUCKS
Tried both refreshing the server list (Connect to server from tracker list is grayed out) and connecting via server IP. Yes I have 11/28 ver.
Quote from: TheBuck on November 28, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
I still can not connect. I was able to connect just fine to the test server.
Error msg reads THERE WAS AN ERROR CONNECTING TO THE SERVER. SHUCKS
Tried both refreshing the server list (Connect to server from tracker list is grayed out) and connecting via server IP. Yes I have 11/28 ver.
What IP and port were you trying to connect to?
Quote from: Trevor on November 29, 2010, 12:55:56 AM
Quote from: TheBuck on November 28, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
I still can not connect. I was able to connect just fine to the test server.
Error msg reads THERE WAS AN ERROR CONNECTING TO THE SERVER. SHUCKS
Tried both refreshing the server list (Connect to server from tracker list is grayed out) and connecting via server IP. Yes I have 11/28 ver.
What IP and port were you trying to connect to?
66.65.20.193:25710
:25711
:25714
I looked on the first page of this thread and the IP is gone so that is why I'm using the one above.
Quote from: TheBuck on November 29, 2010, 01:28:31 AM
Quote from: Trevor on November 29, 2010, 12:55:56 AM
Quote from: TheBuck on November 28, 2010, 10:57:16 PM
I still can not connect. I was able to connect just fine to the test server.
Error msg reads THERE WAS AN ERROR CONNECTING TO THE SERVER. SHUCKS
Tried both refreshing the server list (Connect to server from tracker list is grayed out) and connecting via server IP. Yes I have 11/28 ver.
What IP and port were you trying to connect to?
66.65.20.193:25710
:25711
:25714
I looked on the first page of this thread and the IP is gone so that is why I'm using the one above.
Try only 66.65.20.193:25711. Maybe there was an error caused by your attempt to use the other ports. Relaunch before you make any attempts.
Are you on any sort of firewall or router that might prohibit you from making an outward TCP and UDP connection?
I am behind a fire wall just like I was when the test server was up and haven't changed anything on my end to prohibit me from jumping on.
Tried what you said and it's still a no go. I get the same msg as before.
Quote from: TheBuck on November 29, 2010, 10:30:53 AM
I am behind a fire wall just like I was when the test server was up and haven't changed anything on my end to prohibit me from jumping on.
Tried what you said and it's still a no go. I get the same msg as before.
If you've updated Lackey, you might need to allow the new exe through your firewall. If you haven't updated since the test server, you certainly need to.
Quote from: Alastair on November 29, 2010, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from: TheBuck on November 29, 2010, 10:30:53 AM
I am behind a fire wall just like I was when the test server was up and haven't changed anything on my end to prohibit me from jumping on.
Tried what you said and it's still a no go. I get the same msg as before.
If you've updated Lackey, you might need to allow the new exe through your firewall. If you haven't updated since the test server, you certainly need to.
Still a no go. Same msg still shows up.
I've updated lackey, and it still give me the 'disconnected fo realz'
Quote from: Carabas on November 30, 2010, 03:14:37 AM
I've updated lackey, and it still give me the 'disconnected fo realz'
When? Does it repeatedly do this? It should give you this message if the server is restarted or your internet connection fails. Did you check to see if you actually WERE disconnected? Could you still see chat in the server log?
It gives me the message, and disconnects me completely. I haven't been able to have a game longer than maybe 15 minutes before it kicks me, but I've been able to talk in chat much longer. My other internet services work fine during this time, and often, when I try and reconnect, it will tell me that someone with my username is still connected to the server, although they don't appear in the user list if I change my username and log on.
The connection's working fine now, so that's good. Kind of an off-topic, but it's becoming an issue. There are a few players on Lackey who seem to take a joy in harassing others, joining their games to simply take out the slot, spam the chats and abuse the freedom of Lackey to cheat. No naming needed - those who frequent Lackey a lot know who they are. My point is that the ignore button doesn't solve the issue. Sure I can't read what they're saying, but they can still join my games, and if I go to password protect them others won't be able to join either (expecting them to whisper you for the password isn't realistic). My question, then:
Could you do it so that people put on ignore can't join your game?
Quote from: DemonicSei on December 02, 2010, 07:33:31 AM
Alash, why not tell them that you don't want to play them first?
See what their reaction will be. Some might surprise you!
PS: If you are talking about me (because you left the game when I joined yours), know that if you would have asked me to leave, I would have left in a flash. If that's not the case, well like I said, try telling them first. You might be surprised.
Patrick
This is not a personal dispute. I'm merely giving feedback on one of the new features.
Let's stay on topic.
Quote from: Alash on December 02, 2010, 07:27:40 AM
Could you do it so that people put on ignore can't join your game?
That sounds like a good idea but it's actually more complicated that in sounds. Right now, ignoring is done client side. If I were to make it so you couldn't join a game if they were ignoring you, that would mean everyone's lackey would have to know who everyone else's has on ignore. Also, what about a game with more than one player where one player has one other on ignore? There are several more issues too.
For the near future, ignore people, and if you really don't want them joining your game, you can use a password. I'll come back to this later.
I just posted a new version. Several fixes.
I still can not connect. I was able to connect just fine to the test server.
Error msg reads THERE WAS AN ERROR CONNECTING TO THE SERVER. SHUCKS
This has been going on since you "merged" the servers.
Using 12/2 build.
Buck, there's no logical reason for you to be unable to connect. Catch me on Ventrilo or one of the messengers and I'll see if I can help you figure out the problem.
Quote from: TheBuck on December 03, 2010, 12:47:29 AM
I still can not connect. I was able to connect just fine to the test server.
Error msg reads THERE WAS AN ERROR CONNECTING TO THE SERVER. SHUCKS
This has been going on since you "merged" the servers.
Using 12/2 build.
have the same problem when connecting from my university, before...since yesterday :S
befora that, no problems connecting from here
I have experienced some of the same too Alash and I also think it would be a good feature to at least put on the bottom of the upgrade list Trevor.
At the same time I have also still been getting the intermitent "You are going to have to reconnect for realz" issue and just 20 minutes ago the "Shucks, no connection for you" reality. Although, all in all, it is better than it was.
I just posted a new version.
Quote from: Alastair on December 03, 2010, 03:45:53 AM
Buck, there's no logical reason for you to be unable to connect. Catch me on Ventrilo or one of the messengers and I'll see if I can help you figure out the problem.
Whens a good time to get a hold of you? I'm on at all diff times of the day.
Pretty much anytime. I leave em on basically 24/7. If I'm not around, I won't answer. :P
Fair enough then expect an IM from me later today it's almost 230am where I am and I dont feel like tech talking right now.
Buck's problem has been resolved and it wasn't a lackey issue.
Unless you have the IM it was 100% Lackeys fault, HA! *slaps forehead*
Quote from: Alastair on December 08, 2010, 03:30:55 AM
Buck's problem has been resolved and it wasn't a lackey issue.
Awesome. What turned out to be the issue?
*palmslap* but Yay!
He had the lackey port blocked on the firewall in his router.
hmmmm I think this was a gnome that had it blocked...yeah that's a gnome.
Exactly the same thing happening here too ... Most new versions have run fine for maybe a day or two and then I get the "Shucks, for Realz deal?..."
Trevor and I are going to attempt to move the hosting from his network to mine sometime tomorrow (Saturday at the latest) in an effort to rule his network out as the source of the disconnects. Also there should be a new version by that point as well with some minor updates.
I just posted a new version of lackey. I fixed some bugs.
Things added are the ability to add multiple packs at a time and color coding in the server tab.
In the player list, gray players are people you have on ignore, black is for people who have a different plugin, and green are for people who have the same plugin as you.
For the game list, gray is for games that aren't for your plugin. Black is for games for you plugin that are full. Green is for games for you plugin for which there is an empty seat. You can join green games.
First of all, thank you for the new innovations which are a good idea.
However, I and all others currently connected are unable to actually host a game by either main menu or the regular method. It does not respond at all and no message, except that I did get the "you might be disconnected message" about 5 seconds after attempting to host. This message has occured with the version three times since the download yesterday.
Edited to add that a message also (does indeed) pop up saying that "your version of lackey is not updated" when in fact ones is.
The Add Packs option isn't working (the Qty: section comes up dark gray with a x in the box and when I try to select one pack it just returns to the Card Pool section with nothing showing at all).
I've tried the Babylon 5, Doctor Who, Star Trek 1st Edition, Star Wars TCG & Lord of the Rings CCG's as of yet.
12/10 ver: I get the debug msg "you might be disconnected message" every X sec ( I didn't count the sec)
I have to to hit the load all images to see the cards in deck editor and I have to to this for every section of the "binder" part of the editor. Only have tried this with the magic (large) plugin.
I can confirm the packs issue. On a Mac and OS X 10.4.11.
I do not know if this will help you get a bead on something but I thought I should mention that most of the time when I attempt to close the Lackey app I get the "Lackey is not responding" message even though Lackey has been working (to various degrees). This suggests that something is freezing but not everything...
Quote from: Remag on December 12, 2010, 11:56:18 AM
I do not know if this will help you get a bead on something but I thought I should mention that most of the time when I attempt to close the Lackey app I get the "Lackey is not responding" message even though Lackey has been working (to various degrees). This suggests that something is freezing but not everything...
There are many ways of closing lackey. Which way makes things freeze for you? Can you repeat this reliably?
I have recently downloaded both Wine and Lackey on my Fedora 13 computer. Wine is working fine for me, but I can't seem to get online at all. Everything else works normally, I am just unable to connect to the server
I just decided to start using Lackey again today, downloaded Lackey on my new computer, and lots of strange stuff happened. Lackey doesn't seem to be able to save my preferences, if I close it and open it again, it doesn't save my name, info, color, etc. It says "can't save prefs" I can't update my list of plugins, it has an error: "Error: timed out while attempting to refresh the list of plugins", I can't download any plugins either, "Error: timed out while updating plugin"
...
Can anyone help?
Sounds like something on your system is preventing lackey from saving anything to disk.
Quote from: Alastair on December 19, 2010, 04:45:59 PM
Sounds like something on your system is preventing lackey from saving anything to disk.
Ya, this doesn't sound like a lackey bug. Take a look at where lackey is saved to, and make sure you can write to that location ok. Also, make sure you don't have lackey files, like Preferences.txt, open with another program.
I figured out the problem! I had to open up the properties menu of LackeyCCG.exe, and check the box that says "Run this program as an administrator". This apparently solved the problem.
Quote from: Bobomaster on December 20, 2010, 02:29:12 PM
I figured out the problem! I had to open up the properties menu of LackeyCCG.exe, and check the box that says "Run this program as an administrator". This apparently solved the problem.
That "solved" the problem because running it as administrator overrides normal checks, such as write permission. You can also check to make sure the txt files/etc... are not marked as read-only.
Some bugs:
1) If cards are turned face down in a zone and one of those cards is right-clicked to send to the top or bottom of a different zone, all those face-down cards are revealed.
2) On some occasions where both players attempt to remove counters from the same object at the same time, the object can wind up with negative counters.
3) 'Reveal to others' only works on the right-hand panel, not the lower, bottom, panel (I suspect this could be a bug unique to the magic plugin.'
Quote from: Carabas on December 31, 2010, 06:53:09 PM
Some bugs:
1) If cards are turned face down in a zone and one of those cards is right-clicked to send to the top or bottom of a different zone, all those face-down cards are revealed.
2) On some occasions where both players attempt to remove counters from the same object at the same time, the object can wind up with negative counters.
3) 'Reveal to others' only works on the right-hand panel, not the lower, bottom, panel (I suspect this could be a bug unique to the magic plugin.'
1. I will look into that.
2. That's not a bug. That's 2 people accidentlly both decrementing. If you want, you can instead Set it to X, so more than one action is redundant instead of cumulative.
3. Are you referring to the button? The buttons, which are PART of the right card list, only apply to the zone in the right card list. That is not a bug. There are multiple ways of doing those functions on the bottom card list, but not with those buttons.
for 3, I'm specifically referring to right clicking the zone tab, and choosing 'reveal to others'-> 'top X'.
Oh, I probably should clarify. It's when you're interacting with your opponent's set of cards that it doesn't work.
Quote from: Carabas on January 02, 2011, 12:51:55 AM
Oh, I probably should clarify. It's when you're interacting with your opponent's set of cards that it doesn't work.
I can't seem to replicate this. Can you send me a screenshot of things right before you left click the button on the menu that doesn't work? Does this always occur for you, or does it sometimes work and other times not?
The new lackey is now posted. See http://www.lackeyccg.com/forum/index.php?topic=798.0