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LackeyCCG Forum => General Discussion Forum => Topic started by: netfirecat on January 10, 2010, 04:50:08 PM

Title: MTG help
Post by: netfirecat on January 10, 2010, 04:50:08 PM
I can't build worth a flip and using precons are getting old, especially since against a true deck, they suck... Anyone mind building decks around certain themes?
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: Tokimo on January 10, 2010, 07:10:18 PM
What formats are you playing? Standard is easier to build decks for than extended. Competitive legacy is the hardest thing to build decks for (vintage excluded since it's barely a real format).

Are you net decking at all? Build some Jund decks if nothing else works. If you're losing all of the time with a championship winning Jund deck, it's not because your deck building skills are lacking, it's because you're not a good player (you can get better though, practice helps as does changing the kind of deck you're playing).
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: netfirecat on January 10, 2010, 07:40:20 PM
Mostly casual and the local tourney runs t2 mostly. I rarely go to the tourney, though. My problem is, even when i cut myself down to a block or a set, i overpower or not put enough. I can't balance... Once i get that done, mana balance is wackey, too... I always put to much mana in every time
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: GnKoichi on January 10, 2010, 10:04:21 PM
For Lackey, you can always netdeck. Check out the decklists from the Wizards website from their weekly columns or tournament reports. You can always make adjustments to fit your play style. For real life games, get into drafting. It really helped me, and is a much lower pressure situation.
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: GnKoichi on January 10, 2010, 10:05:25 PM
Also, for mana, go 4 lands for every ten cards in your deck (16 in a 40 card deck, 24 in a 60 card deck) give or take a land for taste.
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: netfirecat on January 10, 2010, 10:17:53 PM
I've heard that, but if my cost is out of balance, i need more mana to compensate. I've tried.
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: Tokimo on January 11, 2010, 08:30:27 PM
Well, there's one of your problems there. Don't use slow mana curves. If you're using a lot of expensive cards they need to win you the game when you start casting them.

Force yourself to play by some mana curve rules: 24 lands, 12 x 1CC spells, 12 x 2CC spells, 6 x 3CC spells, 6 more spells of any cost.

That's tighter than you need to be, but the point still exists. Make sure you're toting a lot of 1 drops and 2 drops.
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: aardvark on January 11, 2010, 09:18:42 PM
Quote from: GnKoichiFor Lackey, you can always netdeck. Check out the decklists from the Wizards website from their weekly columns or tournament reports. You can always make adjustments to fit your play style.

That's my m.o. I can't build a deck to save my life, mostly because I haven't tried. Honestly, I'm trying not to play mtg but I get dragged back in. Gah! Especially when 99.99999% of the users on Lackey will only play mtg most of the time.  >:(

Diversity <insert expletive here>!
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: mathman1550 on January 11, 2010, 10:04:05 PM
I agree, diversity is very important. Play Harry Potter or VTES with me some time :)
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: aardvark on January 12, 2010, 12:12:27 AM
I keep trying to go through the white wolf demo here (http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/demo/overview.html). But I keep getting - ooh, shiny!

Ahem, yes, well, I am definitely willing to play vtes. From what I have been able to go through I like it quite a bit. I've got a starter coming in the mail and hopefully I've got a guy who's willing to teach me.

I wonder if I'll still have buildmyowndeckitis?
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Probably.  :P
Title: Re: MTG help
Post by: netfirecat on January 12, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
hmm, never been told to use that formula before... That might help. now i'll try again.