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Title: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on December 31, 2009, 01:54:14 PM
I'm tempted to start a Precon tournament. The rules would be the same as normal with a few revisions. Best two out of three wins. It will have to be up to the two players to find the best time to face off because of conflicting time zones and schedules. Once i find out if the Lackey community would be interested, i'll get down and think of the specifications and such. Post for any responses and such.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on December 31, 2009, 02:07:02 PM
Count me in.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on December 31, 2009, 02:07:25 PM
Lol ok. that was fast.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Howl on January 01, 2010, 01:13:28 AM
me toooo.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 01, 2010, 07:57:27 PM
:) ok. any suggestions towards limitations on which decks can't be used? Opinions about the ability to switch decks between matches or the use of a side deck? Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on January 01, 2010, 09:34:01 PM
Choose your block tournament.

Build a block legal deck from any block.

Just an idea. :)
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 03, 2010, 04:34:41 AM
that i agree to, it'd be very interesting, but, unless i have another build for me, i wont be able to participate. When i do that, i will block all slivers, though...

Back to the matter at hand, though, suggestions towards a precon tourney...
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Howl on January 03, 2010, 04:02:36 PM
well i dont think there were any precon decks that were tooo good .. meaning that they were better compared to all the other precons. but i do think that lorwyn and futuresight and shadowmoor and newer stuff .. ravnica. i think they do have an advantage over decks from mirage or something like that. so i could see how there could be a proble. and the block idea seems cool.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 03, 2010, 04:20:19 PM
Lol that's why i am looking into a precon tourney. All precons are pretty much equal, none to much stonger than the others unless the player knows how to use it to the best of it's ability. Don't forget the VS decks, either. In the proper hands, Jace or the artifact deck from Planar Chase can be a severe pain. If majority of those playing agree, it can be allowed to swap decks between 3 predetermined decks.

I do plan to organize an individual block-specific deck after this depending on this one turns out. Taking it further, i'll organize a uniform block or series tounament.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Howl on January 03, 2010, 05:03:53 PM
sounds good. so in the end do you think your choosing one block or like three diff block that players can choose from.?
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on January 03, 2010, 05:24:17 PM
Oh, I just thought you meant a constructed tournament. Precon tournie sounds fun too. I think 1 precon that you ride throughout would be the best. A small sideboard might be kinda cool (like 5-10 cards), but would make it much more complicated.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 03, 2010, 05:47:24 PM
I'll organize ones that focus on one or two blocks, single series even. Even have ones that have two parts: uniqueness towards some concept and the tourney winner. I'll take suggestions from everyone that plays, every suggestion will get played, just might take time. Depending on my ability to balance this one and everything else, i might attempt to hold multiple tounaments.

To counteract certain decks or whatever, i was thinking of allowing 2 or 3 separate precons, one being your main. Each Round is started with one's main deck, second round you can swap decks. I might allow it to be up to the player whether they use a sideboard or alternate decks.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: davidkramer on January 03, 2010, 06:14:28 PM
[I think that tournament is a great idea
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: GnKoichi on January 03, 2010, 07:47:01 PM
You should probably limit it to either the Post Alara 41 card decks or the Pre Alara 60 card decks. I suggest the more recent ones.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: GnKoichi on January 03, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
Also, adding a booster each round might be nice. Like, round 1 you get a randomly assigned precon from M10 or Zendikar. After each round, you get a booster from either of those sets, your choice. Your deck must still be 41 cards each round.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: aardvark on January 03, 2010, 07:51:47 PM
I've never played in a tourney before so I guess I might give it a go. Just to see how I do.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 04, 2010, 04:20:27 AM
Hmm, i'd say any 60 card precon except Sliver-build decks. With the booster idea, that i like... Instead of a sideboard or multiple decks, the players get boosters but stay under their limit. Is there some way to make sure someone doesn't try to say they got a card from a booster yet didn't?

Aardvark, a tourney is pretty fun. Depending on the number in it decides which type to hold.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on January 04, 2010, 06:42:59 AM
The tournament organizer could generate the boosters and give them to participants. :/ Honor System. Get a 3rd party to generate boosters.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 04, 2010, 08:01:52 PM
Hm, true. Of those playing, there are 3 choices: 1 deck with a 15 card sideboard, 3 decks with one of them being the primary or each round winner gets a booster.

There are two types of tourney i've seen: Swedish, and Original. In both, the winner of each round is best 2 out of 3. Swedish: everyone plays 3 rounds. Each match victory or tie gets a point. Top 4, 8 or, if there's enough, 16 face off to elimination. Original is just straight elimination. If it's decided winner gets a booster of their choice, Swedish would be better for it. It all depends on the number of players.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 08, 2010, 12:46:45 AM
For those willing to play in the Precon tourney, message me with your opinion between 3 Precon, 1 precon with a 15 card sideboard, or 1 Precon with the winner of each round getting a 15 card booster to alter the deck with. If the third is chosen, the deck can be altrered only between rounds, not matches. Depending on the outcome of players on which tourney i choose: Swedish or Original.

Also send me your selection of 3 decks and which is your primary. As reminders, in a  3-deck game, the primary is the first deck in a round. If a single deck tourney is chosen, your primary will be used. When you message in, you will be responded with a number. At 0100 central time Monday morning, after that when i sign back on, i will accept no more applications. When i sign on, i will send out messages to those in it stating your opponent, signle or multiple decks and such. All decks are allowed except for under ones under 60 and Slivers. Allowed includes the Jace vs Chandra, Liliana vs Garruk and the Elf vs Goblin decks. I will be playing in the tourney, too.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: GnKoichi on January 08, 2010, 08:08:28 PM
Just so you know, the tournament structure is called "Swiss" not "Swedish". The opposite is, of course "Elimination", though I've never seen it referred to as "Original". Not trying to be a know-it-all.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 08, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
thank you for the corrections
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on January 09, 2010, 07:38:55 PM
I'm concerned about allowing the duel decks in. Those are relatively well made decks that I think are actually better than the sliver decks... (actually, the first two sliver decks are real trash too).
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 09, 2010, 11:59:23 PM
they duel decks are great in the right hands, but that's true with any deck. With me, Jace is a nightmare to fight, but Chandra usually turns belly up... I blocked the slivers because with just two cards changed, they are nearly unstopable, even early decks
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on January 10, 2010, 10:03:02 AM
Which sliver deck and which two cards?
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 10, 2010, 02:26:06 PM
Idk, friend of mine at school used to do it to me all the time, borrow one of my sliver precons and smear me with it...
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: GnKoichi on January 12, 2010, 09:03:04 PM
Hey all. I can be on anytime after 6 on weekdays EST or most any time on weekends. Let me know if there's a time you'll be one and we can play.

I want to make sure I understand how the three-deck thing works. You play round 1 and you have to use the deck you marked as primary, right? Then both players have to switch to a second deck? Then if it goes to round 3, you both have to switch to your last decks (no going back to your first deck, no using the same deck twice in a row)? Is that correct?
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on January 12, 2010, 09:05:44 PM
Here I assumed you had to use your primary, then you could use any of the three for the next 1-2 matches.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 12, 2010, 09:09:19 PM
Valid question. Primary is used first, then one may switch if they want or they may keep their primary. What doesn't change is the decks' construction cannot change.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: GnKoichi on January 12, 2010, 09:28:23 PM
Ah, I see. My misunderstanding. On now if people want to play.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Tokimo on January 12, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Reporting in:

Howl vs Tokimo:
Round 1: Howl's Elvish Preditation vs Tokimo's Transference - Winner Tokimo
Round 2: Howl's Elvish Preditation vs Tokimo's Evlish Rage - Winner Tokimo
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: Howl on January 13, 2010, 04:09:16 PM
heh good games... i should have used the crusaders but oh well .
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: aardvark on January 15, 2010, 07:34:51 PM
The time is now 1734 PST and I will wait for 10mins before changing to a better different game.
Title: Re: MTG Precon Tournament
Post by: netfirecat on January 16, 2010, 12:04:38 AM
Netfirecat vs Aardvark

Round 1
Netfirecat(Jace vs chandra: Jace) vs Aardvark(Elf Rage). Winner: Netfirecat

Round 2
Netfirecat(Charge of the Boros) vs Aardvark(Selesnya United). Winner: Aardvark

Round 3
Netfirecat(Battle blitz) vs Aardvark(Aura Mastery). Winner: Netfirecat